The other big relationship for Raffi this season is Elnor. And there's not really a time to sort of be like, "Hey, let's go have a coffee." Trying to get back to their time and do what has to be done. But they also have a task at hand and they're trying to save each other. You can see that they care about each other, and that they look out for each other, and that they want to support each other and make sure that the best happens with each other. You see the other stuff, and the other stuff is all lovely, and pretty and stuff, but I think it's more truthful, and revealing, and familiar, honestly, when you show this kind of stuff about how people's relationship is not always so easy and paved with a yellow brick road type of thing, that there's a lot of thumbtacks that you step on every now and then, but that there is love because I think you can really see that there's a respect and a real history with their relationship. And we really wanted to make sure that we told that story because we don't always see that. And they're both going to present their point of view. It's not that they argue, it's just that they are very strong opinionated people, and both have a point of view. And I think that's one of the things that we really wanted to show is how these women, with the tasks that they have at hand, how do they continue to do what they do and balance the relationship?Īnd I appreciate the fact that we see a little hiccup and stumbles. We often see relationships, we see the meeting, we see the courtship, we see the honeymoon, and then maybe we see a breakup or something, but we don't see the stuff, the meat-and-grits of it all, the hard work that comes in a relationship of trying to figure out how it will work, how it will sustain. And I think it was important for both of us that we tell the story of these two women's relationship in a way that is not always seen. We bonded just as women of a certain age, having been in this industry for so long, we have a shorthand of how we can talk to each other about things. Jeri and I, it's really, really interesting. What kind of conversations did you have with Jeri Ryan about finding the right dynamic for where they are now? Was that a challenge given that you skipped over some of the process of the relationship, or did it come pretty organically for you two? If there was a honeymoon period for them, it feels like that kind of happened in the gap between the two seasons, as you alluded to. And how do those people navigate a relationship? It's tricky, as we all know. But they have a lot of life that they've lived and that's going to come in. So I really quite like that they didn't just have us sticking around, and unicorns and rainbows are following them everywhere because I think that would've been not true, and disrespectful to the characters that we've come to love and respect, because these two love and respect each other.
She's a very haunted and passionate person, and she feels really deeply and Seven has a different way of how she approaches her.Īnd yet she has as much the same deep feelings and vulnerabilities that Raffi has. Raffi, she lives with her heart on her sleeve. And they're both stubborn, and determined, and driven, and guided by other circumstances than just what they see in front of them. They're two women, grown women, who have vetted out the lives that they wanted, whether it was on purpose or happenstance. They're not teenagers who are in puppy love. And I really like how they are vetting out Seven and Raffi's relationship because these are not two school girls. I thought that was straight up in the same respectful concept of what Roddenberry had wanted for what Star Trek tells, how they tell the stories. And Raffi and Rios are having a much more challenging time and that's the impact of their environment, of how they're being treated. And we touch on immigration, and you see how Seven is very comfortable in that time period and not even knowing why without her implants, and the society around her seems to welcome her.
So I appreciated that we were incorporating those things. We really put it in the face of our fans and viewers about the effects that we're having on this planet. Star Trek has always been a vehicle to hold the mirror up to society, as Gene Roddenberry had always wanted, and we do that this season. It was really exciting to see what they were going to do, and jumping into time travel is always wild and exciting and can be tricky. Yeah, I mean, gosh, with Raffi, where does she always start? She's got a lot going on at all times, I think.
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